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	<title>Comments on: The Poor Persecuted Conservatives and their MSM Masters</title>
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		<title>By: Elijah Rintrah</title>
		<link>http://a.rintrah.ca/2005/12/24/the-poor-and-persecuted-conservatives-and-their-msm-masters/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Elijah Rintrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 17:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Wylie, you sir, are being an idiot.  Stop the hate that is seething at your teeth. Wipe the spit from your mouth.  And try to communicate rather than scream and yell.

Trudeau was an NDP member before he moved to the Liberals and became their leader.  If that is what you are suggesting by the word &quot;Communist&quot; then yes, yes he was.

But Trudeau wanted to do away with the Dept of Indian Affairs.  He wanted everyone in Canada to be equal.  And equal means there is absolutely no provision for a &quot;special&quot; status.  The Aboriginal peoples did not like his &quot;white paper&quot; and started a protest and effectively stopped it.  But is that not what some conserveratives would want to happen anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Wylie, you sir, are being an idiot.  Stop the hate that is seething at your teeth. Wipe the spit from your mouth.  And try to communicate rather than scream and yell.</p>
<p>Trudeau was an NDP member before he moved to the Liberals and became their leader.  If that is what you are suggesting by the word &#8220;Communist&#8221; then yes, yes he was.</p>
<p>But Trudeau wanted to do away with the Dept of Indian Affairs.  He wanted everyone in Canada to be equal.  And equal means there is absolutely no provision for a &#8220;special&#8221; status.  The Aboriginal peoples did not like his &#8220;white paper&#8221; and started a protest and effectively stopped it.  But is that not what some conserveratives would want to happen anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: William Wylie</title>
		<link>http://a.rintrah.ca/2005/12/24/the-poor-and-persecuted-conservatives-and-their-msm-masters/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>William Wylie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harper didn&#039;t learn the value of being conservative,
He learned that Trudeau was a COMMUNIST...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harper didn&#8217;t learn the value of being conservative,<br />
He learned that Trudeau was a COMMUNIST&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Elijah Rintrah</title>
		<link>http://a.rintrah.ca/2005/12/24/the-poor-and-persecuted-conservatives-and-their-msm-masters/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Elijah Rintrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 23:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, if Univeristies are liberal institutions that make liberals then why is it that Harper was a Trudeau liberal until he went to univeristy where he then learned the value of being a conservative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, if Univeristies are liberal institutions that make liberals then why is it that Harper was a Trudeau liberal until he went to univeristy where he then learned the value of being a conservative?</p>
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		<title>By: Elijah Rintrah</title>
		<link>http://a.rintrah.ca/2005/12/24/the-poor-and-persecuted-conservatives-and-their-msm-masters/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Elijah Rintrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 23:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,
Media = A
News = B
Commentary = C

You said that I said that people said A = B, C=B, therefore C=A.  I do see what you are saying.  But what I am saying is that this is true.  All news is commentary.  A person reporting the goings-on at a sporting event have their biases and are reporting the game but they may wish one team to win and one to lose.  Listen to the announcers at a Blue Bombers game some time.  They are reporting the &quot;news&quot; of the game but they are purely commentary.

Your argument that it is because the news media have gone to university that the media favours the left.  This, however, does not explain how the majority of news in the US is more right-wing than in Canada.  This does not explain why a majority of left-leaning pre-law students graduate university and are now right-leaning.  This does not explain why the print media in Canada is more right-leaning and the video media is more left.  Are you saying that more TV journalists go to university than do the newspaper journalists?

The problem is not so much that the news is commentary or that the media is biased but that people seem to think that because they have a perspective that it must be right and therefore it must be told to the world by some TV reporter.  If someone says or does something, no matter how small or insignificant, that hurts their cause they feel they must yell and scream.  But it is impossible for the journalists to be dispassionate in their reporting.  They have a perspective.  To report on the horrors of war without being somewhat human about it the reporter has loses all perspective.  To report on election promises dispassionately the reporter ends up being a sales-person for that candidate.  To report, for example, the cut in GST without making mention of what that actually would mean would be to betray the position of a news reporter.  There is a perspective that the reporter must include.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,<br />
Media = A<br />
News = B<br />
Commentary = C</p>
<p>You said that I said that people said A = B, C=B, therefore C=A.  I do see what you are saying.  But what I am saying is that this is true.  All news is commentary.  A person reporting the goings-on at a sporting event have their biases and are reporting the game but they may wish one team to win and one to lose.  Listen to the announcers at a Blue Bombers game some time.  They are reporting the &#8220;news&#8221; of the game but they are purely commentary.</p>
<p>Your argument that it is because the news media have gone to university that the media favours the left.  This, however, does not explain how the majority of news in the US is more right-wing than in Canada.  This does not explain why a majority of left-leaning pre-law students graduate university and are now right-leaning.  This does not explain why the print media in Canada is more right-leaning and the video media is more left.  Are you saying that more TV journalists go to university than do the newspaper journalists?</p>
<p>The problem is not so much that the news is commentary or that the media is biased but that people seem to think that because they have a perspective that it must be right and therefore it must be told to the world by some TV reporter.  If someone says or does something, no matter how small or insignificant, that hurts their cause they feel they must yell and scream.  But it is impossible for the journalists to be dispassionate in their reporting.  They have a perspective.  To report on the horrors of war without being somewhat human about it the reporter has loses all perspective.  To report on election promises dispassionately the reporter ends up being a sales-person for that candidate.  To report, for example, the cut in GST without making mention of what that actually would mean would be to betray the position of a news reporter.  There is a perspective that the reporter must include.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://a.rintrah.ca/2005/12/24/the-poor-and-persecuted-conservatives-and-their-msm-masters/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don&#039;t hear Conservatives complaining about The Globe and Mail.&quot;

lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t hear Conservatives complaining about The Globe and Mail.&#8221;</p>
<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Vincent</title>
		<link>http://a.rintrah.ca/2005/12/24/the-poor-and-persecuted-conservatives-and-their-msm-masters/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have some argumentative problems here.  The claim is &quot;the media is biased&quot; and not &quot;news is biased.&quot;  I don&#039;t know where you get that people claim a commentary is news.  Commentary is a part of the media and the media is biased.  Understand your argumentive problem?  You are implying as if people are saying that the media is the news, commentary is news, therefore the media is biased.  That&#039;s not however the case.

Conservatives are saying not that there are not conservative rags out there.  But instead that overall the media is biased towards the left.

There&#039;s a reason for this.  Universities are liberal institutions.  Most people who work for the media have gone to university.  The people that are influenced by them and the views they take are going to be liberal.  Do not forget that most of the Canadian media is based out of Atlantic Canada and Ontario.  If CBC was to hire on more Albertans and Manitobans it is likely that it would swing closer to the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have some argumentative problems here.  The claim is &#8220;the media is biased&#8221; and not &#8220;news is biased.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t know where you get that people claim a commentary is news.  Commentary is a part of the media and the media is biased.  Understand your argumentive problem?  You are implying as if people are saying that the media is the news, commentary is news, therefore the media is biased.  That&#8217;s not however the case.</p>
<p>Conservatives are saying not that there are not conservative rags out there.  But instead that overall the media is biased towards the left.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason for this.  Universities are liberal institutions.  Most people who work for the media have gone to university.  The people that are influenced by them and the views they take are going to be liberal.  Do not forget that most of the Canadian media is based out of Atlantic Canada and Ontario.  If CBC was to hire on more Albertans and Manitobans it is likely that it would swing closer to the right.</p>
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